The Multiple Counter Offer, A Truth Or Dare

Know what your limit will be when you make an offer

Imagine this scenario. You have found the perfect house. It has been sitting there for 60 days and still hasn’t sold. You think to yourself, the time is finally right. The seller’s are probably eager to see an offer and should be negotiable.

Know what your limit will be when you make an offer

Know your limit to avoid buying on emotion

Your agent sends over the purchase contract you have so carefully prepared. A couple of days later you hear back form the seller’s agent with those dreaded words. “We are in a multiple counter offer situation“.

No way. It’s just not possible. Maybe the seller is not as motivated as we first thought.

What Is A Multiple Counter Offer?

A multiple counter lets you know the seller has received more than one offer and is making this multiple counter to two or more parties. The seller can also make different multiple counters to each of the parties involved. Typically what happens when you sign a counter offer, it means you have an agreement and can move into escrow. With a multiple counter, just because you agree to the terms, it doesn’t mean you have an agreement. The seller has to get back to you and resign the counter, notifying you of an acceptance.

Advantage Seller

In the golden days of real estate (circa 2007) a multiple counter offer was often used to eliminate the weaker buyers who typically had a lower down payment and maybe a less desirable credit score. There was a good chance the price would go up and an eager buyer might be willing to give up some contingencies or reduce their inspection times. But does it still mean that today?

With fewer qualified buyers, is a multiple counter offer still an effective strategy? Plus, as a buyer, how do you know there are actually more than one offer on the same property? The real answer is you don’t. The seller’s agent does not have to produce any evidence proving more than one offer.

So, what you are saying is the seller’s agent could possible be unethical in an attempt to make the prospective buyer bid up the price of the house and accept the sellers counter? No, I did not say that, I believe that is what you inferred from the material I presented.

The way to make you want something or desire it even more is to let you know that someone else also wants it. We learned this when we were kids.

Recently we were involved in a situation where the seller’s agent notified us they were making a multiple counter offer to our buyer. They countered back $5000 less than the asking price. Our buyer chose not to respond but to walk away. 45 days later they brought the price of the house down by $50,000. Was there more than one offer? We may never know.

What To Do?

When you make an offer on a house, you should set a limit as to the maximum price you will be willing to pay. Try and be realistic before you have an opportunity to become emotional. Determine the market price of the house when you make the offer and know the approximate cost of the repairs or changes you are going to make so you don’t blow your budget. Also, don’t place a higher value on the intangibles or on the amenities that are harder to quantify such as a view. It could be worth $25,000 to you but maybe $50,000 to someone else.
By thinking of these issues in advance, you may save yourself some money.

Successful Short Sales Simplified, Seriously

Simplifying the Short Sale Process

Completing a successful Short Sale in the real estate profession is similar to taking a final exam. The outcome is contingent upon how hard you have studied, and whether or not you are familiar with the material.Simplifying the Short Sale Process Trying to cram the night before and hoping for a successful outcome is not an effective strategy.

The transaction process at times can be a bumpy road for agents, not to mention a very stressful time homeowners. As a homeowner trying to navigate this process, you may discover the more information you obtain, the more confusing it becomes.

Pasadena Short Sale Guide


We have put together a special section entitled the Pasadena Short Sale Guide to address the most common issues associated with a Short Sale. You will find the 10 Most Frequently Ask Short Sale Questions, which should give you a better understanding of the process and what is involved.

In today’s housing market it’s unfortunate that Short Sales and Foreclosures have become the rule and not the exception. While it’s definitely not a panacea, a successfully completed Short Sale is a much better option than the consequences from a Foreclosure.

You will also find links and additional resources to assist you with issues relating to your credit report, tax implications and a handy comparison of a Short Sale vs a Foreclosure, which I have also included here. It was put together by the Certified Distressed Property Institute.

Still have questions, or concerns? Give us a call at 626-432-4615. We are here to help.

View Pasadena area Short Sale Properties Listed For Sale

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Pasadena Single Family – Unit Home Sales for the Last 5 Years

5 year Pasadena Single Family Sales History

The lady across the table was hoping to sell her house and have enough money left over to purchase a newer house in the area. She had owned her home for over 30 years and was hoping to find something smaller and easier to maintain. When she saw the recent values in the neighborhood she said “If that is all my house is worth, I’ll just wait for a while until the market bounces back”.

I think what we have been seeing and experiencing with home prices and market activity defines the new normal. For those home sellers who continue to think we are only experienceing a dip and a rebound is just around the corner, are you also waiting for gasoline to return to $2.50 per gllon? Prices are going to fluctuate a few percentage points above and below the flatline for a while. Perhaps a long while.

Housing Market Characteristics

For the last couple of years if you were trying to sell your house, your chances were much better during the January – June period than they were during the July – December months. Could it be back to school, could it be the holiday season? Whatever it was, there was a tapering of demand in the back half of the year.

Single Family Home Sales in Pasadena for a 5 year period

Annual Number of SF Sales in Pasadena

The other thing to point out is that monthly home sales are characterized by sizeable volume swings. So the next time you hear a media report that says monthly home sales increased or decreased by X %, you will understand that its nothing to get alarmed or excited about. That is one thng that has remained normal in either a bull or bear housing market.

Signs of Improvement?

For the housing market to begin appreciating again (and we are not speaking in terms of 2004-2006 appreciateion) certain things have to happen:

  • interest rates have to be favorable. There is no doubt that current interst rates have never been more appealing. If you have not refinanced or if you have deceided to buy, what are you waiting for? Your housing dollar will never go farther.
  • easier access to money – current lending policies and qualification requirements are keeping many people out of the housing market and placing a lid on demand. As business runs in cycles lending policies will eventually loosen up but it will be a slow process
  • employment numbers will need to improve. Until more people are working and can meet the qualifications (see above) there will be a sluggish housing market.
  • distressed properties – as long as there are plenty of short sales and foreclosures available for sale, price apprciation will be harder to obtain. Looking at markets where there are reported signs of a turnaround in housing, the market is either defined by fewer distressed propertis or a healthly local economy.

While our economy in Pasadena may be better than ther parts of California, we do have an above average inventory of homeowners who are either behind or underwater on their mortgage.

There is More to Real Estate Than Just Contracts & Escrow…a lot more

The House of Pasadena

The Pasadena Real Estate Guide will soon begin to run an ongoing, behind the scenes look at life in the Pasadena Real Estate market. This ongoing “novel like” account will feature the issues, the emotions and the people that make selling real estate in Pasadena so interesting and uh, well exciting, to say the least.

The House of Pasadena

There's more to real estate than contracts and escrow

If you have been to an open house, bought or sold a home, you probably have an interesting story to tell. Now what if you do this all day, everyday? The House of Pasadena will present a fictionalized (or so they say) representation of the drama that makes this such an exciting industry to be in.

We have been privy to read the first few installments and it promises to be a very exciting introduction. Whether its buying a home, selling a home or working with an agent it offers an inside account of the everyday issues and turns it into one compelling story.

If you have ever thought about a career in real estate “The House of Pasadena” will be a great tutorial about what you can expect.

Will the Debt Forgiveness Act Expire This Year?

Will Short Sales be Subject to Tax?

With the Mortgage Debt Forgiveness Act set to expire at the end of this, a storm cloud may be on the horizon.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the legislation, congratulations! You probably have not had to experience the financial hardship of being upside down on your home. To those homeowners who have been through a short sale or a foreclosure beginning in 2007 to present day, this law has provided some much needed financial relief.

Will Short Sales be Subject to Tax?

For instance, if you purchased your primary residence for $600,000 and then completed a successful short sale where your home was sold for $450,000, it results in a difference of $150,000. Since it was “forgiven” so to speak and it was not paid, our friends at the IRS view this as income. And everyone knows how you report income, you pay tax on it. So a double edge sword in which you receive both ends, a kick you when you’re down scenario. Lose your investment in your home and pay tax on the disparity between the purchase and final sales price. The courts call this double jeopardy when it applies to murder. When it applies to real estate we call it tax law.

Storm Clouds Loom

A precursor to foreclosure is a loan modification. With foreclosure becoming more and more of an arbitrary subjective process, loan modifications have become more commonplace. Far from ubiquitous, but more frequent. Read through a loan modification agreement. The agreements I have heard about are a negatively amortized mortgage in reverse. If your house payment was $2500 and the loan modification calls for a new payment of $1000, the difference of $1500 is just tacked onto the end of the mortgage. It doesn’t go away, it just kicks the can down the road until the eventual day of reckoning. Very much like the California budget process.

Implied in the loan modification is an eventual short sale, one day, sooner or later. No longer treading water, but sinking deeper. But it is an air tank allowing you to breathe until you decide its time to move on.

Preparing for the Big One?

With increasing loan modifications and a continual prolonging of the short sale process are we preparing for financial Armageddon? With the end of the Debt Forgiveness Act in sight, would you be better off selling your home this year as opposed to keeping it for an indefinite period of time and possibly facing a huge tax bill down the road?

At least if you were to sell this year you’re aware of you tax implications or lack thereof. Next year, it could be anybody’s guess as to what will happen. You would most definitely think the law would be extended, but these are crazy times. Who knows, it could possibly be given a 60-day extension just like the payroll tax cut.

This is not intended to be considered tax and legal advice. Please consult with the appropriate professional (Tax Attorney, CPA, etc) on your specific situation.