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	<title>Comments on: The Fed Announces It Will Buy a Half Trillion Dollars in Mortgage Bonds;  Interest Rates Tumble</title>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best time to buy will be when mortgages are 0% and FHA gives the buyer $10,000 to buy a
home.  PLEASE... WHERE ARE THE MORON BUYERS that believe it is time to buy?.  
Smart buyers know that this is NO time to buy because median salary/Home price ratio do not 
add up. Home prices will go down and by a lot of $$$$&#039;s yet... 

This is not an interest rate problem is a good paying job problem, and too much debt.  
What the feds are doing is trying to revive the housing bubble. It won&#039;t work.  Stupid people are
already priced out of the housing market and losing their homes to foreclosure or by choice. 

And NO it is NOT a good time to buy a home.  I want to see the Realtors buying these great deals themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best time to buy will be when mortgages are 0% and FHA gives the buyer $10,000 to buy a<br />
home.  PLEASE&#8230; WHERE ARE THE MORON BUYERS that believe it is time to buy?.<br />
Smart buyers know that this is NO time to buy because median salary/Home price ratio do not<br />
add up. Home prices will go down and by a lot of $$$$&#8217;s yet&#8230; </p>
<p>This is not an interest rate problem is a good paying job problem, and too much debt.<br />
What the feds are doing is trying to revive the housing bubble. It won&#8217;t work.  Stupid people are<br />
already priced out of the housing market and losing their homes to foreclosure or by choice. </p>
<p>And NO it is NOT a good time to buy a home.  I want to see the Realtors buying these great deals themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of his article Jeremy Kossen concludes:

&quot;This is a great time to buy or refinance, especially over the holidays.   There are lots of buying opportunities out there!&quot;

And THIS is what I believe is bad advice.  This is NOT a great time to BUY a home.  It might be a good time to refinance.

If you believe the history of homebuying has been the years 2003-2008, then yes, this is probably the best time in the last 5 years to be deciding to buy, just because the previous 5 were so horrible.  However, the next 5 years are going to be SO MUCH BETTER you&#039;d have to be a blind optimist to think otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of his article Jeremy Kossen concludes:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a great time to buy or refinance, especially over the holidays.   There are lots of buying opportunities out there!&#8221;</p>
<p>And THIS is what I believe is bad advice.  This is NOT a great time to BUY a home.  It might be a good time to refinance.</p>
<p>If you believe the history of homebuying has been the years 2003-2008, then yes, this is probably the best time in the last 5 years to be deciding to buy, just because the previous 5 were so horrible.  However, the next 5 years are going to be SO MUCH BETTER you&#8217;d have to be a blind optimist to think otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it sounds like you really have no desire to purchase a home.&quot;

I have owned two homes in the past.  I just don&#039;t see a reason to buy one at these prices.  I&#039;ve owned homes from 1975-1989, from 1994-2003, and my selling was due to job relocation.  In both cases, the cost of owning a home vs. renting was worth owning a home.  Today, it&#039;s nowhere near that level.

My desire to own a home is determined when I can afford.  David, if you honestly believe that the cost of owning a home will FOREVER be this much more expensive than renting, than yes, I will never own a home.  But I believe you are mistaken.  I believe that owning a home WILL get much less expensive over the next 5 years, and sometime before then, I will be owning my 3rd home.  I can&#039;t tell you exactly when that is in terms of MONTHS, but I can tell you it is when the cost of owning a home is less than 4X annual incomes for the area.  And I have a strong belief that this will happen, because it has ALWAYS HAPPENED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it sounds like you really have no desire to purchase a home.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have owned two homes in the past.  I just don&#8217;t see a reason to buy one at these prices.  I&#8217;ve owned homes from 1975-1989, from 1994-2003, and my selling was due to job relocation.  In both cases, the cost of owning a home vs. renting was worth owning a home.  Today, it&#8217;s nowhere near that level.</p>
<p>My desire to own a home is determined when I can afford.  David, if you honestly believe that the cost of owning a home will FOREVER be this much more expensive than renting, than yes, I will never own a home.  But I believe you are mistaken.  I believe that owning a home WILL get much less expensive over the next 5 years, and sometime before then, I will be owning my 3rd home.  I can&#8217;t tell you exactly when that is in terms of MONTHS, but I can tell you it is when the cost of owning a home is less than 4X annual incomes for the area.  And I have a strong belief that this will happen, because it has ALWAYS HAPPENED.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like I hit a nerve.  To me, housing is a place to live, and if and when it is an investment, it&#039;s at retirement and you no longer have housing payments (minus property taxes/maintenance) to deal with.  I rent because I&#039;m happy with where I&#039;m living now, and because it&#039;s a smart financial move.  I have enough liquid cash to buy an average house outright, I make just under $200K/year, and I choose not to buy right now.  That doesn&#039;t mean I won&#039;t ever buy.

So, be honest with yourself, the market&#039;s a mess and now is probably not the best time to buy.  The median price is too far out of line with median income, we&#039;re in a recession, and California&#039;s unemployment rate is over 8% and has only been getting worse.  I don&#039;t believe there are enough buyers who will qualify at 5.5% or who will want to buy at current prices to turn this around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like I hit a nerve.  To me, housing is a place to live, and if and when it is an investment, it&#8217;s at retirement and you no longer have housing payments (minus property taxes/maintenance) to deal with.  I rent because I&#8217;m happy with where I&#8217;m living now, and because it&#8217;s a smart financial move.  I have enough liquid cash to buy an average house outright, I make just under $200K/year, and I choose not to buy right now.  That doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t ever buy.</p>
<p>So, be honest with yourself, the market&#8217;s a mess and now is probably not the best time to buy.  The median price is too far out of line with median income, we&#8217;re in a recession, and California&#8217;s unemployment rate is over 8% and has only been getting worse.  I don&#8217;t believe there are enough buyers who will qualify at 5.5% or who will want to buy at current prices to turn this around.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on what I&#039;m reading here from Hannah and Tim, is that it sounds like you really have no desire to purchase a home.   I don&#039;t think the stars will ever be in alignment enough for you to buy....unless interest rates come down to 3.5%, banks require no downpayment, credit scores don&#039;t matter and the median price of a home drops to $200,000 in Pasadena.  Why don&#039;t you be honest with yourself?   You really don&#039;t want to buy a home, now or ever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on what I&#8217;m reading here from Hannah and Tim, is that it sounds like you really have no desire to purchase a home.   I don&#8217;t think the stars will ever be in alignment enough for you to buy&#8230;.unless interest rates come down to 3.5%, banks require no downpayment, credit scores don&#8217;t matter and the median price of a home drops to $200,000 in Pasadena.  Why don&#8217;t you be honest with yourself?   You really don&#8217;t want to buy a home, now or ever?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things here...

Of course I&#039;m taking into consideration the volatility of rates, which is my point exactly.  If you can lock in at 5.5% or lower, that&#039;s a stellar rate.   Right now, my FHA rates for a borrower putting 3% down with a credit score as low as 620 on a $600,000 loan would qualify for a 5.5% based on today&#039;s rates, and that&#039;s with mortgage insurance that is half as much as a Fannie Mae conforming loan.

As far as a &quot;dodging a bullet&quot;, I&#039;m referring to changes in lending guidelines, FHA requiring more of a downpayment, interest rates increasing, etc.   If you got in with a low interest rate on a 30 year fixed, you&#039;re in good shape, because you got a loan that you could afford.

Granted, if you&#039;re paying $1200 in rent, and you like where you live, and you don&#039;t think now is a good time to buy, I doubt you will ever feel it&#039;s a good time to buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things here&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;m taking into consideration the volatility of rates, which is my point exactly.  If you can lock in at 5.5% or lower, that&#8217;s a stellar rate.   Right now, my FHA rates for a borrower putting 3% down with a credit score as low as 620 on a $600,000 loan would qualify for a 5.5% based on today&#8217;s rates, and that&#8217;s with mortgage insurance that is half as much as a Fannie Mae conforming loan.</p>
<p>As far as a &#8220;dodging a bullet&#8221;, I&#8217;m referring to changes in lending guidelines, FHA requiring more of a downpayment, interest rates increasing, etc.   If you got in with a low interest rate on a 30 year fixed, you&#8217;re in good shape, because you got a loan that you could afford.</p>
<p>Granted, if you&#8217;re paying $1200 in rent, and you like where you live, and you don&#8217;t think now is a good time to buy, I doubt you will ever feel it&#8217;s a good time to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you not paying attention to the volatility of mortgage rates?  How about the market conditions?  The only buyers that will qualify for 5.5% are pretty bulletproof with documented income, high FICO, and 20-25% down.  If you&#039;re only putting down 10% or worse, an FHA 3%, you can pretty much kiss the lowest rate goodbye.  Factor in PMI and the next to no odds of getting a 5.5% loan with no points, your effective rate is well above 5.5%.

Let&#039;s not forget that Pasadena and West LA are majority Jumbo mortgage territory.  This 5.5% won&#039;t even touch that.

To back up Tim, please crunch his numbers for us with your &quot;tax benefit of owning a home&quot; argument.  $1816 + property tax + insurance + maintenance + HOA.  Now subtract the &quot;tax benefit&quot;.  I have a fantastic 2 bedroom apartment in a safe neighborhood at $1200/month.  We&#039;ll use Tim&#039;s higher number of $1400.  Does the tax benefit cancel all this out?  For these calculations, we&#039;ll ignore the rapidly depreciating home prices and the nominal loss of 2.5% savings interest on your 20% down payment.

I would agree that &quot;chasing a bottom&quot; is not the best strategy, but realtors take that a bit too far.  There&#039;s a difference between timing the exact bottom and following the trends and making a guestimate within a reasonable range of the bottom.  Based on the current carnage, we are nowhere near there.

And just so you know, your statement: &quot;What if you canâ€™t qualify for financing for an unforeseen reason?&quot;, assuming you didn&#039;t buy... this sounds like a good thing.  You probably dodged a bullet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you not paying attention to the volatility of mortgage rates?  How about the market conditions?  The only buyers that will qualify for 5.5% are pretty bulletproof with documented income, high FICO, and 20-25% down.  If you&#8217;re only putting down 10% or worse, an FHA 3%, you can pretty much kiss the lowest rate goodbye.  Factor in PMI and the next to no odds of getting a 5.5% loan with no points, your effective rate is well above 5.5%.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that Pasadena and West LA are majority Jumbo mortgage territory.  This 5.5% won&#8217;t even touch that.</p>
<p>To back up Tim, please crunch his numbers for us with your &#8220;tax benefit of owning a home&#8221; argument.  $1816 + property tax + insurance + maintenance + HOA.  Now subtract the &#8220;tax benefit&#8221;.  I have a fantastic 2 bedroom apartment in a safe neighborhood at $1200/month.  We&#8217;ll use Tim&#8217;s higher number of $1400.  Does the tax benefit cancel all this out?  For these calculations, we&#8217;ll ignore the rapidly depreciating home prices and the nominal loss of 2.5% savings interest on your 20% down payment.</p>
<p>I would agree that &#8220;chasing a bottom&#8221; is not the best strategy, but realtors take that a bit too far.  There&#8217;s a difference between timing the exact bottom and following the trends and making a guestimate within a reasonable range of the bottom.  Based on the current carnage, we are nowhere near there.</p>
<p>And just so you know, your statement: &#8220;What if you canâ€™t qualify for financing for an unforeseen reason?&#8221;, assuming you didn&#8217;t buy&#8230; this sounds like a good thing.  You probably dodged a bullet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Kossen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Kossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not true.   I&#039;ve been closing deals on condos in West L.A. in the low $400s recently.   I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re taking into consideration the tax benefit of owning a home, which lowers your true cost significantly.   As far as waiting another few years because home prices are lower, is this a prudent strategy?   

What if prices bottom out next year?   

What if interest rates are 7.5%?   

What if down payment requirements increase?   

What if you can&#039;t qualify for financing for an unforeseen reason?   

There are a lot of &quot;what if&#039;s&quot;.   The point is there are so many variables, that &quot;chasing a bottom&quot; is usually not the most prudent strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not true.   I&#8217;ve been closing deals on condos in West L.A. in the low $400s recently.   I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re taking into consideration the tax benefit of owning a home, which lowers your true cost significantly.   As far as waiting another few years because home prices are lower, is this a prudent strategy?   </p>
<p>What if prices bottom out next year?   </p>
<p>What if interest rates are 7.5%?   </p>
<p>What if down payment requirements increase?   </p>
<p>What if you can&#8217;t qualify for financing for an unforeseen reason?   </p>
<p>There are a lot of &#8220;what if&#8217;s&#8221;.   The point is there are so many variables, that &#8220;chasing a bottom&#8221; is usually not the most prudent strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you lower the down payment, you are raising the financing.  So your monthly payment is still substantially over your original $1800/month estimate, which does not include property taxes ($330 per month) and insurance and maintainance, which moves your costs well north of $2200/month.

Last I checked, the only place you can buy for $400K is not in a particularly nice neighborhood and often requires &quot;TLC&quot; to bring it up to par, which will require an additional outlay of capital.

I currently rent a nice 2 bedroom apartment south of California Blvd for $1400/month, which includes my water bill.  The only way I could possibly afford to live in this neighborhood would be paying over $600K for a condo.  Even without a down payment, my monthly expenses would double.  Why is this worth doing, when I can wait another few years and home prices will be lower?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you lower the down payment, you are raising the financing.  So your monthly payment is still substantially over your original $1800/month estimate, which does not include property taxes ($330 per month) and insurance and maintainance, which moves your costs well north of $2200/month.</p>
<p>Last I checked, the only place you can buy for $400K is not in a particularly nice neighborhood and often requires &#8220;TLC&#8221; to bring it up to par, which will require an additional outlay of capital.</p>
<p>I currently rent a nice 2 bedroom apartment south of California Blvd for $1400/month, which includes my water bill.  The only way I could possibly afford to live in this neighborhood would be paying over $600K for a condo.  Even without a down payment, my monthly expenses would double.  Why is this worth doing, when I can wait another few years and home prices will be lower?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Kossen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Kossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fannie Mae still allows you to put down 10% and with FHA programs you can put down 3%, so you could come in with as little as a $12,000 down payment.   With a seller concession for closing costs, that would $12,000 would be net dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fannie Mae still allows you to put down 10% and with FHA programs you can put down 3%, so you could come in with as little as a $12,000 down payment.   With a seller concession for closing costs, that would $12,000 would be net dollars.</p>
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